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		<title>By: StormWarning</title>
		<link>http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2005/05/27/hillary-clinton-popularity-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>StormWarning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Trust me I know too well about when the Yankees sucked. I was there.&lt;/i&gt;

Been &lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt; all my life.  I remember well the 1962 WS (I think) when Ralph Terry was pitching against the SF Giants (my Dad had gotten seats from one of his subcontractors on the first base line...problem was that it was the old Stadium and my seat was directly behind a girder).

Also remember watching Ryne Duran pitch...saw Bob Cerv and Enos Slaughter play the outfield...watch Gil MacDougal and Phil Rizzuto...

Harold Ford is a great up and coming Democrat.  I doubt if he has enough clout yet to make a run for the Presidency.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Trust me I know too well about when the Yankees sucked. I was there.</i></p>
<p>Been <b>here</b> all my life.  I remember well the 1962 WS (I think) when Ralph Terry was pitching against the SF Giants (my Dad had gotten seats from one of his subcontractors on the first base line&#8230;problem was that it was the old Stadium and my seat was directly behind a girder).</p>
<p>Also remember watching Ryne Duran pitch&#8230;saw Bob Cerv and Enos Slaughter play the outfield&#8230;watch Gil MacDougal and Phil Rizzuto&#8230;</p>
<p>Harold Ford is a great up and coming Democrat.  I doubt if he has enough clout yet to make a run for the Presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Kerwick</title>
		<link>http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2005/05/27/hillary-clinton-popularity-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Kerwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 01:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only shot a midwestern democrat has at garnering the Democratic Party nomination AND winning a National Election is Ford from Tennesse. I am a Center-Right pro business, small government, anti-regulation Independent which I guess in this day and age makes me a Neo-con Republican to most. I would vote for Ford in a heartbeat over most we have discussed with the possible exception of Dr. Rice. I would love to see the Democratic Party wrested from the far left wing looneys in Hollywood but I'm not holding my breath.

Ford is young, charismatic, decent looking(for the ladies out there that also voted for Kennedy for the same reason) CENTRIST, strong on principles and generally is in touch with the American Electorate. The fact he is black might help with the looney libs but I seriously doubt it. That is precisely why he would never get the Democratic Nomination. It's a damn shame because he would make a good President IMO.

Northeastern Canidates are not necessarily bad for America. Just the ones who have run in the last 50 years of my life. Rudy would have great appeal to the electorate as a whole and Hillary really isn't from my birthplace of New York. Plus I wouldn't vote for her because she isn't a Yankee fan even during the years when they sucked. Trust me I know too well about when the Yankees sucked. I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only shot a midwestern democrat has at garnering the Democratic Party nomination AND winning a National Election is Ford from Tennesse. I am a Center-Right pro business, small government, anti-regulation Independent which I guess in this day and age makes me a Neo-con Republican to most. I would vote for Ford in a heartbeat over most we have discussed with the possible exception of Dr. Rice. I would love to see the Democratic Party wrested from the far left wing looneys in Hollywood but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
<p>Ford is young, charismatic, decent looking(for the ladies out there that also voted for Kennedy for the same reason) CENTRIST, strong on principles and generally is in touch with the American Electorate. The fact he is black might help with the looney libs but I seriously doubt it. That is precisely why he would never get the Democratic Nomination. It&#8217;s a damn shame because he would make a good President IMO.</p>
<p>Northeastern Canidates are not necessarily bad for America. Just the ones who have run in the last 50 years of my life. Rudy would have great appeal to the electorate as a whole and Hillary really isn&#8217;t from my birthplace of New York. Plus I wouldn&#8217;t vote for her because she isn&#8217;t a Yankee fan even during the years when they sucked. Trust me I know too well about when the Yankees sucked. I was there.</p>
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		<title>By: StormWarning</title>
		<link>http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2005/05/27/hillary-clinton-popularity-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>StormWarning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, Rudy won't run:

1) he's pro-life, anti-gun
2) he's doing very well in his consulting business
3) he's a northeasterner (doesn't bode well historically)


IMO, Hillary won't run (despite other opinions):

1) she's a northeastern Democrat
2) she's a lightening rod for everyone
3) she's doing nicely as Senator from NY State


I believe that the Democrats will run someone from the midwest who can project a semblance of "values."  Despite the "Hollywood influence" I believe that someone like Bayh, or Tom Vilsac (Iowa governor) will end up being the nominee.

I don't know about the dynamic of Frist and McCain at this point.  It may be a little early to call that one (actually, its a little early to bet on either race).  But I do think that you are underestimating McCain's appeal to the "middle."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, Rudy won&#8217;t run:</p>
<p>1) he&#8217;s pro-life, anti-gun<br />
2) he&#8217;s doing very well in his consulting business<br />
3) he&#8217;s a northeasterner (doesn&#8217;t bode well historically)</p>
<p>IMO, Hillary won&#8217;t run (despite other opinions):</p>
<p>1) she&#8217;s a northeastern Democrat<br />
2) she&#8217;s a lightening rod for everyone<br />
3) she&#8217;s doing nicely as Senator from NY State</p>
<p>I believe that the Democrats will run someone from the midwest who can project a semblance of &#8220;values.&#8221;  Despite the &#8220;Hollywood influence&#8221; I believe that someone like Bayh, or Tom Vilsac (Iowa governor) will end up being the nominee.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the dynamic of Frist and McCain at this point.  It may be a little early to call that one (actually, its a little early to bet on either race).  But I do think that you are underestimating McCain&#8217;s appeal to the &#8220;middle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Kerwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Kerwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the above have no shot at all.

D: Evan Bayh  Would NEVER get the Democratic Party Nomination. The Looney Hollywood crowd that hijacked this Party would not stand for someone this centrist.

R: Bill Frist  Would have a hard time winning the Republican Nomination and would get his head handed to him by Hillary.

New 3rd Party: John McCain  Wouldn't ever be able to raise enough money. He also would be fed to wolves by the Right Wing of the Republican Party so much so that they might support another Republican for his Senate seat in Arizona, namely the Governor of that state.

It's still way too early to tell but I still think the only 2 possible people to run and beat Hillary are Rudy Guilianni or Dr. Rice. Both of these can get the Republican Nomination and raise serious cash if they wanted the job. They also pose unique problems for Hillary. It is hard for Hillary to run against someone she is trying to be similar to. Rudy is Liberal enough on issues like abortion, womans rights and generally most social issues. He also is Conservative enough on things like the War to make it difficult for her to make enough different comparisons with. Running against an opposite is easier for her than someone similar. Her move to center right for this Presidential election has been a lesson in political smarts. If however, she can't make enough differences in her debates, America would vote for it's 9/11 hero and not her.
Dr. Rice makes a completely different problem for her. Hillary can not vilify her or risk alienating the Black vote and the Woman vote. Dr. Rice may be of no match to Hillary politically but she is way smarter and far more to the right her entire life, not just the past 6 years. That is why these 2 are the only ones I think can beat her but I feel Rudy's health problems will keep him out of the fray. I'll stick with Dr. Rice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the above have no shot at all.</p>
<p>D: Evan Bayh  Would NEVER get the Democratic Party Nomination. The Looney Hollywood crowd that hijacked this Party would not stand for someone this centrist.</p>
<p>R: Bill Frist  Would have a hard time winning the Republican Nomination and would get his head handed to him by Hillary.</p>
<p>New 3rd Party: John McCain  Wouldn&#8217;t ever be able to raise enough money. He also would be fed to wolves by the Right Wing of the Republican Party so much so that they might support another Republican for his Senate seat in Arizona, namely the Governor of that state.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still way too early to tell but I still think the only 2 possible people to run and beat Hillary are Rudy Guilianni or Dr. Rice. Both of these can get the Republican Nomination and raise serious cash if they wanted the job. They also pose unique problems for Hillary. It is hard for Hillary to run against someone she is trying to be similar to. Rudy is Liberal enough on issues like abortion, womans rights and generally most social issues. He also is Conservative enough on things like the War to make it difficult for her to make enough different comparisons with. Running against an opposite is easier for her than someone similar. Her move to center right for this Presidential election has been a lesson in political smarts. If however, she can&#8217;t make enough differences in her debates, America would vote for it&#8217;s 9/11 hero and not her.<br />
Dr. Rice makes a completely different problem for her. Hillary can not vilify her or risk alienating the Black vote and the Woman vote. Dr. Rice may be of no match to Hillary politically but she is way smarter and far more to the right her entire life, not just the past 6 years. That is why these 2 are the only ones I think can beat her but I feel Rudy&#8217;s health problems will keep him out of the fray. I&#8217;ll stick with Dr. Rice.</p>
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		<title>By: StormWarning</title>
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		<dc:creator>StormWarning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, lets try this one on for size.

My very early "consensus" poll for 2008 is:

D: Evan Bayh

R: Bill Frist

New 3rd Party: John McCain


As I've written before, "let us not deal with today's reality or things as they are or as they seem to be, but look at things the way they may become.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, lets try this one on for size.</p>
<p>My very early &#8220;consensus&#8221; poll for 2008 is:</p>
<p>D: Evan Bayh</p>
<p>R: Bill Frist</p>
<p>New 3rd Party: John McCain</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written before, &#8220;let us not deal with today&#8217;s reality or things as they are or as they seem to be, but look at things the way they may become.”</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Kerwick</title>
		<link>http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2005/05/27/hillary-clinton-popularity-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Kerwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 16:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is can we get Dr. Rice to run?

By far the most qualified for the job. Politics aside, this a no brainer.

I really beleive that the folks would do what they think is in their best interest regardless of the media spin. 

Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives are all in the same boat.

 Hillary or someone else. The question is who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is can we get Dr. Rice to run?</p>
<p>By far the most qualified for the job. Politics aside, this a no brainer.</p>
<p>I really beleive that the folks would do what they think is in their best interest regardless of the media spin. </p>
<p>Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives are all in the same boat.</p>
<p> Hillary or someone else. The question is who.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2005 02:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't say for sure that she will or will not.  But, I can assure you, she's testing the water.  And, I think she knows as well as I do that glow from "the Clinton years" will be forgotten in 2012.  If she doesn't run in 2008, she will never be a serious candidate.

Having said that, unless something changes, I'm willing to put money on her running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say for sure that she will or will not.  But, I can assure you, she&#8217;s testing the water.  And, I think she knows as well as I do that glow from &#8220;the Clinton years&#8221; will be forgotten in 2012.  If she doesn&#8217;t run in 2008, she will never be a serious candidate.</p>
<p>Having said that, unless something changes, I&#8217;m willing to put money on her running.</p>
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		<title>By: StormWarning</title>
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		<dc:creator>StormWarning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2005 01:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that you disagree with me (because of the PAC) but I still don't expect her to run in '08.

Archive this please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that you disagree with me (because of the PAC) but I still don&#8217;t expect her to run in &#8216;08.</p>
<p>Archive this please.</p>
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