Pirro v Clinton
Posted by Moonage on 10 Aug 2005 | Tagged as: 2006 US Senate Races
And the polls are already out……
As Alexandar McClure notes on Polipundit:
I know some Republicans will get excited over this, but I strongly recommend caution. It was Clinton whose numbers moved, not Pirro. Remember that this is New York.
I’m with McClure at this point. The fight hasn’t even started. Actually, the pre-season hasn’t even started. Apparently this poll totally dismisses the fact that Ed Cox is running against Pirro in a primary. From the sound of things, Ed’s not going to have a chance, but, he can dish out the dirt before Pirro even meets Hillary, saving Hillary a lot of cash AND the negativity of a smear campaign. However, 50% is not a figure Clinton can be comfortable with given the fact she’s the incumbant. And, 28% is not actually that bad for someone who’s not even started their campaign. Hillary does look a lot more vulnerable than I would have guessed at this point.
However, do remember, I am not a fan of polls. I’ll follow them, but I sure won’t place any money on them.
9 Comments »
on 11 Aug 2005 at 12:10 am 1.Bryan Kerwick
said …
Ask Moon if he would like to have a friendly little wager of say some of Kentucky’s finest products, namely bourbon and cigarettes.
Bet ya a carton of Marlboros and a fifth of Woodford Reserve this race ends in single digits.
Considering Hillary won by 12 points before and is now the incumbent, she should improve over last election.
Given the fact she will have Karl Rove’s undevided attention however makes this bet a horserace. Yet another fine Kentucky product.
The polls are not in Hillary’s favor because the gap will narrow dramatically and the looney left hollywood crowd that controls the DNC money will surely be convinced she went to far to the right.
I still think that the prudent political move at this point is to withdraw from the race, but not after raising a ton of cash, commit to a run at the White House in 2008 and start her campaign right now. She moved enough to the right already in her Senate stint to actually have a chance nationwide and cut Howard Dean off at the knees before he tries to pull the party further to the left. There really isn’t anyone from either side of the isle IMO right now who can beat her heads up. Why give anyone the chance. Kinda like poker. Your sitting with the best hand but could get outdrawn if you don’t force the issue and make the other guy go all in on a draw. They almost always will fold to fight another day. Thats where she is now. Hillary, quit screwing around with the Senate race and go all in for the White House. You got the best hand.
on 02 Dec 2005 at 3:39 pm 2.Moonage
said …
Was it my best day? Absolutely not,” she said. “Am I better than that? Absolutely not.” - Jeanine Pirro
From everything I’ve seen, this race is over.
on 03 Dec 2005 at 7:29 am 3.StormWarning
said …
One point of note. I believe that it was written somewhere a while ago that the margin of victory of Sen. Clinton’s re-election for the Senate might influence whether she’d decide to run for the White House in ‘08. I believe that I read that seeing her strength in a Democratic state would give an indication of her strength overall. I doubt that a close margin of victory (even 55-45) would show that strength. Of course, the stronger the Republican challenger, the closer the election is likely to be. If she wins the Senate race in a landslide, she might well make an attempt. By then, she won’t be my Senator anyway…just some thoughts.
on 03 Dec 2005 at 10:36 am 4.Moonage
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Given the ineptitude of Pirro’s campaign, 55-45 is probably a given. I expect worse. Expect Hillary to run in ‘08. She’s not looking for a true gauge of her popularity, she’s just looking for something to justify her run outside of who she is.
on 21 Dec 2005 at 1:10 pm 5.Moonage
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Pirro is out:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/21/ny.pirro/index.html?eref=yahoo
on 21 Dec 2005 at 8:46 pm 6.StormWarning
said …
So now they’ll run Eddie Cox. That give Sen. Clinton a clear run to a second term.
on 21 Dec 2005 at 9:46 pm 7.Moonage
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I was under the impression Cox had withdrawn already. Some other name was being tossed around that I am unfamiliar with. Probably as much of a threat as Cox was(is).
on 21 Dec 2005 at 10:39 pm 8.StormWarning
said …
It leaves two Republicans without much statewide name recognition in the race. But some supporters expect Richard Nixon’s son-in-law, Edward Cox, to jump back in. He had pulled out after Governor George Pataki endorsed Pirro.
http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=161656
I hadn’t heard any “alternate” candidate. Whoever it is, IMO, can’t win. Sen. Clinton, despite all of the negativity, has done a “good job” for New York State. That’s hard to refute.
on 21 Dec 2005 at 11:46 pm 9.Moonage
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I have no doubt Clinton is unbeatable at this point for sure. Even if she had done a lousy job, her funding would swamp anyone thinking of jumping in. Cox included.