Posted by Moonage on 06 Dec 2005 | Tagged as: National Politics
I guess this should mean something to me, but it doesn’t. This "panel" so invalidated itself by having members on its panel with obvious agendas outside of the concerns of national interest ( read Jamie Gorelick ) that their conclusions regarding national interest are meaningless to me.
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on 06 Dec 2005 at 5:43 pm 1.Bryan Kerwick
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Here is an idea whose time has come. Lets have a massive public works project(so beloved by the left) that builds a 30+ foot wall all across the borders starting with the southern one.
Keeping out everyone will solve the problem of terrorists gaining access thru Mexico or Canada. It will also force Congress to get a real immigration policy in place. We need the immigrants but we also need to carefully scrutinize who we let in.
I am all for accepting the vast majority of people who wish to be here for employment. We need them as much as they need us but we need to do this in a manner that is sane and expediant. We also need to enforce a single language education system so there can be advancement made by the immigrants. Their children should not be stuck in migrant farming, landscaping, domestic duties or laborers jobs because they can’t speak english. If they get left back so what. At least when they do graduate they will have a real education.
We need to do this for everyone and not just immigrants. Remember Dexter Manley, Hall of Fame superstar football player graduated college but was illiterate. There is no excuse for this and it is not the students fault. It is the teachers who have failed and keeping them accountable is what is driving them nuts. Our children and the immigrants deserve better and we should force the issue, even if it takes 10 hour a day classes all year long. We can and must do this despite the teachers union bitching. If that doesn’t work, we should allow vouchers and let the major corporations that must employ these people actually educate them. Just a thought but a good one if you ask me.
on 07 Dec 2005 at 6:48 am 2.StormWarning
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My word! I agree with Bryan! Moon and I have debated the question of closing our borders for nearly 4 years now.
The wall will cost alot, and it’ll still have to be patrolled, but there is no cost, IMO, that will buy us enough border patrol agents.
on 07 Dec 2005 at 9:13 am 3.Moonage
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We don’t disagree as much as you think. I agree with Bryan as well. What we have debated in the past is what to do about illegal immigrants. There’s a difference IMO. If someone’s here and working, they’re not that big of a problem. Someone here wants them. In my opinion, we need two things, the wall, and a guest worker program. The wall will simply allow us to make sure those coming here to work won’t be the drug traffickers and rapists that we’ve sometimes gotten in the past or the general population Mexico doesn’t want there.
And, it might even stop a terrorist or two.
on 08 Dec 2005 at 3:22 pm 4.StormWarning
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One of my biggest issues about illegal aliens is that regardless of whether they are working or not, they are not paying taxes and they and their children become a drain on the municipal infrastructure…it costs money for education, health care and even garbage collection, fire and police support etc.
I believe that what you and I disagreed about in the past has been my call to “shut down the country” and find/deport all illegal aliens.
on 08 Dec 2005 at 4:44 pm 5.Moonage
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The problem is the definition of what is illegal and what is not. We need X number of those “illegals”. IMO it’s no big deal that they work here. The big deal is skipping taxes on their income. Prosecute those that use those tactics and the demand for illegals will drop substantially. In addition, develop a true worker program. Let them come here, work, pay taxes, and go home if they choose. It’s the drug dealers, rapists, thugs in general that I want the wall for. It’s competing with China that I want the workers for.
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