Why the people of New Orleans are screwed

Mayor Ray Nagin has been busy this week. First he attacked the very serious issue of rebuilding the World Trade Center. Then he has to address the issue of who sits where on schoolbuses.

What I’ve not seen one peep from Nagin about is this:

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On practically the one year anniversary of Katrina, nothing about Nagin has changed. Why you all voted for this idiot is beyond me.

New Orleans, you’re screwed. While Nagin’s playing political prima donna, I’ll do what he’s supposed to be doing, If he won’t say it, I will. GET OUT! If that path holds, you’ve got till next Thursday or so and then we’ll see if all those levees Nagin says are crap truly are or not. I for one would rather see who’s right sitting in Lafayette than the Sixth Ward.

  • Michelle Malkin has more on Nagin. Without the infrastructure in place, or the levees fully repaired, he’s urging people to return to New Orleans just in time for hurricane season. She does get one thing wrong, “his” constituents apparently don’t think he’s an ass. They voted for him enough to get him back in as mayor.

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  • http://www.gulfsails.blogspot.com GulfSails

    So I guess based on your logic, everyone should get out of New York City because there will definately be another terrorist attack there?

    I think it’s a legitimate question to ask what the heck is taking so long in building something, anything on the WTC site.

    Comparing Katrina and 9/11 is wrong, but he makes a valid point.

  • Moonage

    You missed the point 100%. Speculating on a terrorist attack is one thing, having a graph of a tropical depression barreling directly on New Orleans which already has a compromised infrastructure and questionable abilities to stop even semi-normal rainfall is completely another. Whether Nagin has the right to bitch about New York is a completely different topic. DOING IT WITH AN IMPENDING DISASTER AFFECTING HIS OWN PEOPLE IS WHAT I AM QUESTIONING. Has he even mentioned the fact a potential hurricane could strike New Orleans in less than a week?

    It amazes me that I can actually point to a real life potential threat and people will totally ignore it if it makes Nagin look bad. Amazing. What has this guy actually ever done FOR New Orleans to merit such worship? I’d really like to know.

  • http://wetbankguide.blogspot.com Mark Folse

    We know there’s a damn TS in the Gulf. What we want to know is why the life or the house of a person in New Orleans is worth less than the feds shelled out for the busboys at the Eyes of the World? Why did ConEd get a huge payout for the loss of six blocks of infrastructure while we can get noting to rebuild Entergy? If we win the war on terror tomorrow and lose New Orleans, the U.S. is still a failure.

  • http://moonagewebdream.blogs.com/storms_counter_terrorism/ StormWarning

    I saw an article yesterday that discussed that US Gulf Coast hospitals seen unprepared for new storms

    You and I have had lengthy discussions about how our lack of response and recovery during Katrina did not bode well for our country in the event of a mass casualty attack. Based on that article, not much has changed in a year. Some of the discussions I have had re: disaster preparedness and response simply illustrate (to me at least) how far we have to go to coordinate communications and health infrastructure.

    Comparing Sept. 11th with Katrina/Rita is not only wrong, but as played by Nagin, its a fool’s game. Some people want to make this a political issue. Know what? It is a political issue, but the focus of attention now should shift to the DHS and FEMA.

    On the otherhand, once a storm passes by La., it might bring us some rain.

  • Jaime

    There is a moral to the “boy who cried wolf” story. Maybe you have heard of that one.

    Speaking as a New Orleans native, sorry but no can do. See, we have jobs to go to and homes / lives / businesses to rebuild. You say, “IF that path holds, you’ve got till NEXT THURSDAY…” If the storm misses things continue as normal (or at least that Post Katrina normal that we are dealing with now). We have to wait until Sunday or Monday and see what the storm does.

    In tornado alley do they go into the basement every time it rains or pay attention to the signs warnings that are issued? It’s the same thing here.

    In 2004, for Hurricane Ivan predictions were sending the storm a little too close so evacuations were called. Most of us left town and paid for hotel rooms and restaurants and took a forced vacation (that was not much fun). I know my family struggled financially for a few months after that “unexpected adventure”. We were grateful the storm missed and did not regret leaving but it came with a price. For my company it caused all kinds of problems but we dealt with them and moved on. However, it is not something done lightly – there is a real expense involved.

    Last summer Hurricane Dennis was out there. The president of Jefferson stepped out and called evacuations for his parish early – departing from the state plan. I remember watching the press conference and thinking “Huh?”. The storm was way out there and had not targeted anywhere yet. His jump to action forced the lower parishes to call their evacuations prematurely and the whole system was thrown out of whack. Had the storm actually come through his mistake could have resulted in thousands of deaths in Plaquemines, St. Bernard parishes and even on the Mississippi coast. We all use the same roads so the real danger zones need to get out first – before the high population areas – otherwise they don’t stand a chance.

    By the way, do you know what happened in Jefferson when that evacuation order was called? Nothing. No one left. Schools and businesses stayed open and life continued on as it did before. If the weatherman does not tell you to go there is absolutely no reason to leave. We listen to Max Mayfield, not the politicians. Who would you listen to? Something else to note. Even though the president of Jefferson turned the pumps off and evacuated the operators (and flooded the parish) he never called a mandatory evacuation. I would venture a guess that there was not one person in the entire parish who stayed because the word “mandatory” was never used. If “Cat 5” did not scare you out of town nothing was going to.

    Unfortunately, for Katrina, time was limited. When we went to bed on Friday night the storm was still projected to hit Florida / Alabama. We were in the clear but most of us were watching the situation closely. Overnight on Friday, the states of Mississippi and Louisiana started the process so that, if necessary, contraflow could kick in on Saturday afternoon. When the 5am update was released the process kicked into high gear. That morning phase 1 of the evacuations had to go a little late and start at the same time as phase 2 of the plan. Phase 3 (which included New Orleans and Jefferson Parishes) and contraflow (which means all roads leading out) started right on schedule. In the end the roads were clear before they were closed and hurricane force winds started to move in. Every single vehicle that was attempting to leave the region was able to do so with time to spare. About 1.5 million people evacuated in less than 40 hours and did so in an orderly fashion. That part of the evacuation plan worked better than any expert could have imagined.

    You know, every time I run into a friend or meet someone new we talk about Katrina (that is still the only subject of conversation here). I always ask “did you stay?” and if they did, I ask “why?” So far the most common response is “I left before and nothing happened” (which is a pretty poor answer in my book but I do hear it a lot). “We stayed for Betsy and did fine then” is also very popular. Those are beating “work” and “pets” by a long shot. I have only run across “had no way out” a few times and in all but one of those cases the people did evacuate vertically (to a hotel or an office building). Betsy and Georges and Ivan were responsible for most of the deaths in New Orleans during Katrina. All kinds of people stayed because of them. It is a pretty good example of the dangers of crying wolf, don’t you think?

    Oh, and we don’t need Nagin to tell us that the levees are crap. The Army Corp has to keep taking credit. This week we found out that the pumps they installed need to be rebuilt – great!

  • http://yowiepad.blogspot.com/ chris

    We’ve still got a long way to go as far as where this hurricane’s going to hit, but I agree if it does swing New Orleans way, they’re screwed.

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  • Moonage

    As far as tornado alley goes, the answer is yes, we take them seriously and seek shelter no matter how inconvenient it might be. Granted we don’t have to evacuate, but I don’t think people really have to totally evacuate NO either. However, getting out of the places you KNOW is gonna flood MIGHT be a good idea and putting the word out more than one day in advance an even better idea. It just gauled me that some parts of NO are still very fragile and vulnerable, you’ve got a potential hurricane barreling straight at it, and Nagin, with the forecast already available to at least me, takes it upon himself to criticize once again, everyone else but the people who should are in charge of NO. As far as the boy who cried wolf, no one questioned him after the sheep got eaten did they? And in the case of Jefferson, that was PRE-Katrina and the effects of the damaged infrastructure of NO were not an issue. My point is as ill-prepated for a Cat 3 hurricane as those levees were last year, how much you wanna bet they won’t even take a Cat 1 this year? When they get those levees figured out and bettered up, THEN you can start accusing people like me of crying wolf.

  • http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/ mw

    Shouldn’t this have been posted on Storm Warning’s page?

  • Moonage

    It could have been. I have been fascinated with and following weather phenomena for a long time before Storm showed up. As such, I did a bunch of stuff on Katrina before/during/after it hit last year. We have the technology now to give fair warning, we have the technology to move lots of people if necessary, we have everything in place to minimize the human loss of a hurricane. However, local politics can put the screws to all that know-how. So, in this case, my comments were purely on the politics of what was happening. I was concerned that Nagin was spending all his time playing political prima donna with a potential impending disaster looming. And, although warned last year that the potential disaster was on its way, local politicians minimized the concern which led to what we saw on tv. At least here, they can’t say no one warned them. If people are removed from harm’s way BEFORE a disaster, FEMA doesn’t look so bad. It’s not FEMA’s fault all those people were left in harm’s way last year. And, given the same people are in charge today, I have no confidence they won’t do exactly the same thing again.

    They are now saying this could be a potential Cat 3 hurricane just east of New Orleans. Wanna guess the power and direction of Katrina last year?

  • http://moonagewebdream.blogs.com/storms_counter_terrorism/ StormWarning

    MW: Why should this have been on the counterterrorism page? It could have been, but it didn’t have to be. My good friend Moon graciously asked me to join him a year ago. We collaborate.

    At this point, the issue is purely political, although as I earlier noted, it seems that the medical infrastructure is not ready for another hurricane hit.

  • Moonage

    Honestly, I don’t think any of their infrastructure is ready for another one. I actually do have some insight to what is going on there. Medical, police, social services, basic infrastructure, I don’t think any of it’s ready.

  • http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/ mw

    It was a joke.

    Look at the name ===> Storm Warning.

    Look at the post ===> Storm Warning.

    I just slay myself. – mw

  • http://moonagewebdream.blogs.com/storms_counter_terrorism/ StormWarning

    Well, as of the 5am EDT Sunday projection, the National Hurricane Center is now showing Ernesto veering to the northeast across Florida by Friday morning.

  • Moonage

    Hopefully this one will move out of the way, which it looks like it will now. But my point is not so much this one as how concerned Nagin seems to be with them in general so far. The post I made was based on the NOAA Hurricane tracking system. I get RSS and email feeds that tell me what’s going on at any time. If I can do that, Nagin and his people can as well. There’s no sense in waiting a day or two after a potential problem pops up to start talking about it. Some people can leave at will, others can’t. Those that can could be preparing now for an early departure if they desire. Waiting an extra day or two just makes it more difficult for everyone if everyone decides to prepare and leave at the same time ( see the road to Houston last year ). I just think given the infrastructure of New Orleans right now, they need to be extra cautious in preparation. And, he needs to be worrying more about what’s being done in New Orleans right than concerning himself with New York or anyone else. And, I think he needs to stop recruiting people to return to New Orleans until he can assure their safety.

  • Moonage

    I get it now MW. :)

  • Moonage

    Well, as fate would have it, that silly storm is now much more likely to hit me than New Orleans.

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