Comments on: Why the people of New Orleans are screwed http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/ Think Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:34:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1201 Moonage Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:41:52 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1201 Well, as fate would have it, that silly storm is now much more likely to hit me than New Orleans. Well, as fate would have it, that silly storm is now much more likely to hit me than New Orleans.

]]> By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1200 Moonage Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:58:34 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1200 I get it now MW. :) I get it now MW. :)

]]> By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1199 Moonage Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:14:25 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1199 Hopefully this one will move out of the way, which it looks like it will now. But my point is not so much this one as how concerned Nagin seems to be with them in general so far. The post I made was based on the NOAA Hurricane tracking system. I get RSS and email feeds that tell me what's going on at any time. If I can do that, Nagin and his people can as well. There's no sense in waiting a day or two after a potential problem pops up to start talking about it. Some people can leave at will, others can't. Those that can could be preparing now for an early departure if they desire. Waiting an extra day or two just makes it more difficult for everyone if everyone decides to prepare and leave at the same time ( see the road to Houston last year ). I just think given the infrastructure of New Orleans right now, they need to be extra cautious in preparation. And, he needs to be worrying more about what's being done in New Orleans right than concerning himself with New York or anyone else. And, I think he needs to stop recruiting people to return to New Orleans until he can assure their safety. Hopefully this one will move out of the way, which it looks like it will now. But my point is not so much this one as how concerned Nagin seems to be with them in general so far. The post I made was based on the NOAA Hurricane tracking system. I get RSS and email feeds that tell me what’s going on at any time. If I can do that, Nagin and his people can as well. There’s no sense in waiting a day or two after a potential problem pops up to start talking about it. Some people can leave at will, others can’t. Those that can could be preparing now for an early departure if they desire. Waiting an extra day or two just makes it more difficult for everyone if everyone decides to prepare and leave at the same time ( see the road to Houston last year ). I just think given the infrastructure of New Orleans right now, they need to be extra cautious in preparation. And, he needs to be worrying more about what’s being done in New Orleans right than concerning himself with New York or anyone else. And, I think he needs to stop recruiting people to return to New Orleans until he can assure their safety.

]]> By: StormWarning http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1198 StormWarning Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:25:02 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1198 Well, as of the 5am EDT Sunday projection, the National Hurricane Center is now showing Ernesto <a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/091228.shtml?5day" rel="nofollow">veering to the northeast across Florida by Friday morning.</a> Well, as of the 5am EDT Sunday projection, the National Hurricane Center is now showing Ernesto veering to the northeast across Florida by Friday morning.

]]> By: mw http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1197 mw Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:41:05 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1197 It was a joke. Look at the name ===> Storm Warning. Look at the post ===> Storm Warning. I just slay myself. - mw It was a joke.

Look at the name ===> Storm Warning.

Look at the post ===> Storm Warning.

I just slay myself. - mw

]]> By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Moonage Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:06:52 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1196 Honestly, I don't think any of their infrastructure is ready for another one. I actually do have some insight to what is going on there. Medical, police, social services, basic infrastructure, I don't think any of it's ready. Honestly, I don’t think any of their infrastructure is ready for another one. I actually do have some insight to what is going on there. Medical, police, social services, basic infrastructure, I don’t think any of it’s ready.

]]> By: StormWarning http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1195 StormWarning Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:58:15 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1195 MW: Why should this have been on the counterterrorism page? It could have been, but it didn't have to be. My good friend Moon graciously asked me to join him a year ago. We collaborate. At this point, the issue is purely political, although as I earlier noted, it seems that the medical infrastructure is not ready for another hurricane hit. MW: Why should this have been on the counterterrorism page? It could have been, but it didn’t have to be. My good friend Moon graciously asked me to join him a year ago. We collaborate.

At this point, the issue is purely political, although as I earlier noted, it seems that the medical infrastructure is not ready for another hurricane hit.

]]> By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1194 Moonage Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:03:21 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1194 It could have been. I have been fascinated with and following weather phenomena for a long time before Storm showed up. As such, I did a bunch of stuff on Katrina before/during/after it hit last year. We have the technology now to give fair warning, we have the technology to move lots of people if necessary, we have everything in place to minimize the human loss of a hurricane. However, local politics can put the screws to all that know-how. So, in this case, my comments were purely on the politics of what was happening. I was concerned that Nagin was spending all his time playing political prima donna with a potential impending disaster looming. And, although warned last year that the potential disaster was on its way, local politicians minimized the concern which led to what we saw on tv. At least here, they can't say no one warned them. If people are removed from harm's way BEFORE a disaster, FEMA doesn't look so bad. It's not FEMA's fault all those people were left in harm's way last year. And, given the same people are in charge today, I have no confidence they won't do exactly the same thing again. They are now saying this could be a potential Cat 3 hurricane just east of New Orleans. Wanna guess the power and direction of Katrina last year? It could have been. I have been fascinated with and following weather phenomena for a long time before Storm showed up. As such, I did a bunch of stuff on Katrina before/during/after it hit last year. We have the technology now to give fair warning, we have the technology to move lots of people if necessary, we have everything in place to minimize the human loss of a hurricane. However, local politics can put the screws to all that know-how. So, in this case, my comments were purely on the politics of what was happening. I was concerned that Nagin was spending all his time playing political prima donna with a potential impending disaster looming. And, although warned last year that the potential disaster was on its way, local politicians minimized the concern which led to what we saw on tv. At least here, they can’t say no one warned them. If people are removed from harm’s way BEFORE a disaster, FEMA doesn’t look so bad. It’s not FEMA’s fault all those people were left in harm’s way last year. And, given the same people are in charge today, I have no confidence they won’t do exactly the same thing again.

They are now saying this could be a potential Cat 3 hurricane just east of New Orleans. Wanna guess the power and direction of Katrina last year?

]]> By: mw http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1193 mw Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:51:48 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1193 Shouldn't this have been posted on Storm Warning's page? Shouldn’t this have been posted on Storm Warning’s page?

]]> By: Moonage http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/comment-page-1/#comment-1192 Moonage Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:01:55 +0000 http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2006/08/25/why-the-people-of-new-orleans-are-screwed/#comment-1192 As far as tornado alley goes, the answer is yes, we take them seriously and seek shelter no matter how inconvenient it might be. Granted we don't have to evacuate, but I don't think people really have to totally evacuate NO either. However, getting out of the places you KNOW is gonna flood MIGHT be a good idea and putting the word out more than one day in advance an even better idea. It just gauled me that some parts of NO are still very fragile and vulnerable, you've got a potential hurricane barreling straight at it, and Nagin, with the forecast already available to at least me, takes it upon himself to criticize once again, everyone else but the people who should are in charge of NO. As far as the boy who cried wolf, no one questioned him after the sheep got eaten did they? And in the case of Jefferson, that was PRE-Katrina and the effects of the damaged infrastructure of NO were not an issue. My point is as ill-prepated for a Cat 3 hurricane as those levees were last year, how much you wanna bet they won't even take a Cat 1 this year? When they get those levees figured out and bettered up, THEN you can start accusing people like me of crying wolf. As far as tornado alley goes, the answer is yes, we take them seriously and seek shelter no matter how inconvenient it might be. Granted we don’t have to evacuate, but I don’t think people really have to totally evacuate NO either. However, getting out of the places you KNOW is gonna flood MIGHT be a good idea and putting the word out more than one day in advance an even better idea. It just gauled me that some parts of NO are still very fragile and vulnerable, you’ve got a potential hurricane barreling straight at it, and Nagin, with the forecast already available to at least me, takes it upon himself to criticize once again, everyone else but the people who should are in charge of NO. As far as the boy who cried wolf, no one questioned him after the sheep got eaten did they? And in the case of Jefferson, that was PRE-Katrina and the effects of the damaged infrastructure of NO were not an issue. My point is as ill-prepated for a Cat 3 hurricane as those levees were last year, how much you wanna bet they won’t even take a Cat 1 this year? When they get those levees figured out and bettered up, THEN you can start accusing people like me of crying wolf.

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