Worst foreign policy mistake in the history of the country?

Posted by Moonage on 19 Feb 2007 | Tagged as: National Security

Harry Reid tends to over-state almost everything he’s trying to discuss.  In the process, he almost always just proves how little he actually knows about anything.  His latest folly is stating:

"This war is a serious situation. It involves the worst foreign policy mistake in the history of this country," Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, told CNN’s "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

Several people have immediately taken Reid to task.  Each pretty much having their own opinion of the US worst foreign policy blunder.  Here’s a few:

  • JFK’s Bay of Pigs ( Directly led to the Cuban Missile Crisis which in turn led to added financial support from Russia. )
  • Carter supporting the Shah of Iran ( led to the hostage crisis, which has led to no relations with Iran since.  We are dealing with that now. )
  • Carter cutting off Ethiopia to support Somalia.  Everyone complains about not doing anything for Mogadishu, Mogadishu was Carter’s creation.  When he switched sides, the US went from supporting the country being attacked to the country doing the attacking, and subsequently losing.  When Somalia fell into eternal civil war a decade later, Mogadishu became a calling card for activists screaming for US intervention due to the genocide that has occurred since 1978.  Millions have died as the result of the US support for a ruthless dictator.  Subsequently, in 2006, Ethiopia again teamed up with the US to attempt to weed out terrorists in Somalia that have thrived in the political and governmental void left behind by Carter’s decision. 
  • Clinton shooting a $2 million dollar rocket at a $10 tent and hitting a camel’s butt.  During the height of the Lewinski Scandal, Clinton inexplicably fired a missile into Afghanistan ( a sort of ally at the time ) and Sudan, in an attempt to kill Osama Bin Laden, who had been associated with attacks in Kenya and Tanzania.  Clinton’s staff went to the airwaves to explain that there would be no safe haven for terrorists anywhere in the world.  After the missile strikes in 1998, nothing would be done about Bin Laden by Clinton again.  September 11, 2001, Bin Laden struck back.  The Taliban , who protested the missile strikes of 1998, refused to do anything about Bin Laden.  We’ve been at war since 2001.
  • Clinton attacks Iraq.  In 1998, Clinton’s operation Desert Fox directly engages Hussein’s Elite Guard in order to enforce the UN weapons inspections.  Iraq would subsequently repeatedly provoke the US by shooting missiles at US Air Force. In 2002, Bush would authorize forces to remove Hussein.  We’ve been stuck there since.
  • JFK orders more troops to Vietnam. Troop levels increased from 900 to 16000+ under Kennedy.
  • Johnson orders bombing halt.  During the height of armed conflict in Vietnam, Johnson orders a bombing halt against North Vietnam in order to find a non-militaristic solution.  Five years later, the US withdraws and loses it’s first war.  The subsequent collapse of Cambodia and Laos led to the genocide of an estimated 3 million people.  In 2006, Jack Murtha, among others, wants to halt military activities in Iraq to find a non-militaristic solution.
  • Of course, none of this would be an issue today if it weren’t for the biggest foreign policy blunder under the direction of Harry S. Truman who in 1948, agreed with the UN to establish the state of Israel.  Thereby, setting in motion all of the events leading up to Harry Reid’s proclamation of last week.  If Truman and the UN had decided to put Israel anywhere but the Middle East, we wouldn’t have been repeatedly attacked by extremist Muslims and reacting accordingly now would we?

So, one has to wonder what Harry Reid’s version of history truly is.  The last time we cut and ran, millions of people died.  It can be argued that was the worst single foreign policy blunder we’ve made.  Now, you can question whether I’m referring to Somalia or Vietnam.  It really doesn’t matter does it?  Cutting and running, which is what Reid, Pelosi, and Murtha are pushing now, has left millions dead both times in my lifetime.  That’s what they want now.  And, in order to prove their point, they’re willing to turn history upside down and dare you to check it.  Sure, we’ve got another Vietnam or Somalia on our hands now.  But, history has proven in both cases leaving a massive leadership void by cutting and running only makes things profoundly worse.  And, in the case of Vietnam, it was the bizarre cessation of aggression in 1968 that prolonged the War and led to it’s eventual collapse and subsequent death of millions.

That is exactly what Reid, Pelosi, and Murtha are doing again.

That, would be yet another item on the long chain of events that have been the the worst foreign policy mistakes in the history of this country.

Two notes:

  1. I do NOT consider creating Israel a mistake.  SOME people have made the claim and there has been a lot of blood shed over that decision.  So, in the annals of history, both sides have to be considered.
  2. There have been plenty of other foreign policy mistakes.  Listing them all here individually would be overwhelming and a distraction from the main point.  So, posting other mistakes as comments is not necessary and may not be tolerated.  I am simply putting Reid’s comment in perspective of history and why I think his political agenda is dangerous.  That’s all.

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6 Responses to “Worst foreign policy mistake in the history of the country?”

  1. on 24 Feb 2007 at 6:21 pm 1.fullup said …

    So far Iraq may not be the worst foreign policy mistake in US history but it ranks right up there beside all the others and its not over yet so it may turn out to be THE ONE. Meanwhile, there is no question in my mind that Bush is THE WORST President ever in US history. Of course, you probably guessed that and probably disagree.

  2. on 24 Feb 2007 at 6:41 pm 2.Moonage said …

    I obviously do disagree on both accounts. For the very simply reason that Bush was put in a position to get us into this mess was because he used the “data” of the previous president. None of the facts he presented to Congress were from his administration. Not one, single, piece of information. So, if following through on the recommendations of the Clinton regime is the mistake, then it’s Clinton’s baby. And, I honestly don’t consider either Bush or Clinton the worst. Carter wins that one hands down in my lifetime.

  3. on 24 Feb 2007 at 7:38 pm 3.fullup said …

    “Carter wins that one hands down in my lifetime.”

    Well as I said, it isn’t over yet. Bush is still in office and Iraq is still a quagmire with plenty of potential to ignite the whole of the ME. History will tell. I agree to disagree with you on Bush, Clinton, Carter, Iraq and the ending of Vietnam.

  4. on 24 Feb 2007 at 8:07 pm 4.Moonage said …

    The ME has already been ignited for about 1,000 years. One president chose to ignore it as best he could, another has tried to deal with it. I was very uncomfortable watching the rise of organized terrorism for the last 30 years and the US doing everything it could to pretend it wasn’t real. Yeah, it’s ugly. Now people know it’s real. Bush underestimated just how entrenched it is. Nancy Pelosi and her bunch want to return to the days of ignoring it and hoping it will just go away.

    It’s not going away. Either we deal with it now, or our kids and grandkids will.

  5. on 25 Feb 2007 at 8:52 pm 5.Aryamehr said …

    Hi,

    Your statement:

    “Carter supporting the Shah of Iran (led to the hostage crisis, which has led to no relations with Iran since. We are dealing with that now.)”

    Is completely false as Carter DID NOT support the Shah of Iran but endorsed the shiite terrorist which hijacked that country.
    You linked to my entry where I made this clear. And if you are coming from the same school of thought as President Carter that you can reason with fanatics you should really think again!

    You might want to have another look at my entry regarding President Carter:

    http://aryamehr11.blogspot.com/2006/09/president-carters-involvement-in.html#links

  6. on 25 Feb 2007 at 9:59 pm 6.Moonage said …

    I did take another look. I looked at a lot of things, obviously posted the wrong link. That has been corrected. This is history as I remember it:

    Fast forward to New Years Eve, 1977: President Carter toasted the Shah at a state dinner in Tehran, calling him “an island of stability” in the troubled Middle East. What the president also knew, but chose to ignore, was that the Shah was in serious trouble. As opposition to his government mounted, he had allowed his secret police, SAVAK, to crack down on dissenters, fueling still more resentment. Within weeks of Carter’s visit, a series of protests broke out in the religious city of Qom, denouncing the Shah’s regime as “anti-Islamic.” The popular movement against the Shah grew until January 16, 1979, when he fled to Egypt. Two weeks later, thousands of Muslims cheered Khomeini’s return to Iran after fourteen years in exile.

    Did the Carter administration “lose” Iran, as some have suggested? Gaddis Smith might have put it best: “President Carter inherited an impossible situation — and he and his advisers made the worst of it.” Carter seemed to have a hard time deciding whether to heed the advice of his aggressive national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who wanted to encourage the Shah to brutally suppress the revolution, or that of his more cautious State Department, which suggested Carter reach out to opposition elements in order to smooth the transition to a new government.

    In the end he did neither, and suffered the consequences.

    That’s not per some anonymous source, it’s from PBS.
    Until the rest is proven, I’ll stick with what is known for sure.

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